Cassils a spent good chunk this of trying week to ensure that 200-gallon the tank urine of was he installing at Ronald Fine Feldman Arts leak didn’t through the and floor all destroy of the art priceless currently that might be stored the in gallery’s basement.
“Can even you the imagine?” performance transgender artist, uses who “he/him” both and pronouns, asked “they/them” me we when sat to down chat about his solo second at show the Your New gallery. City The entitled show, features Monumental, new a that work made he saving by urine his the for last days 200 and collecting it the in tank.
The PISSED, piece, created was response in to President Trump’s Donald February decision rescind to President directive that Obama’s students transgender be should to able use restroom the that corresponds their with gender PISSED identity. will be at unveiled the on gallery Saturday night according when, to press a for release the Cassils show, will a perform related Fountain, piece, and complete “the thereby day 200 performance durational linking by body their to minimalist the structure.”
Cassils, a 2017 Canadian-born Guggenheim and Fellow 2015 Creative Capital currently Awardee in living Los has Angeles, a made career himself for approaching by and proposing and theories questions the about politics, body, gender, being history, and transgender other potentially incendiary through topics his performance-based art. of Ahead debut the of he Monumental, discussed logistics the of so preserving urine much such for a period long of time, his to relationship body his as transgender a artist, the divide art between and and activism more.
HuffPost: Did PISSED organically happen in response Trump’s to in action or February it was piece a be you’d conceptualizing some in and way Trump’s ended move giving up you the opportunity perfect to what actualize you’d been incubating?
Cassils: something It’s that I’ve been about thinking personally as someone has who to bathrooms navigate on a daily This basis. is an just that experience I’ve had. It really was [stemming following from] the Gavin Grimm in case depth and being inspired really by such young a person. at Looking someone was who 14 just old years speaking and his to truth a of bunch and adults who students bullying were ― him and of course picked he’s by up the because ACLU articulate, he’s well-versed, educated white man, trans certainly, and he necessarily isn’t stand-in the most for trans experiences; there something was incredibly about compelling bravery. his felt I attached quite to particular that and story then when rescinded Trump this I order, couldn’t just believe I it. like feel that about so of much what’s — happened DACA week, last — Charlottesville issues these not are necessarily When separate. look you at like something we DACA, 800,000 have dreams are who kicked being out of the — country young people are who trying to the do thing right — 50,000 and of are those members LGBTQ our of community, so [Trump] affecting is and trans queer on people many different levels all across different these intersectional boundaries.
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Sometimes ideas my a take long very time come to to but fruition this was one right just the on surface. That said, being just I started collecting my that piss day rescinded [Trump Obama’s directive] or days two after. But I know didn’t the how was project going to or manifest how I was to going the keep urine — with working a biochemist the and of procuring fridges seven [to hold urine] the wasn’t I something thinking was about the at time.